«Feast for the eyes. Wonderful compositions. Beeeeeautiful lighting. It almost seemed as if you used Garry's Mod. I rarely get into sci-fi storylines unless they're phenomenal - but I'm not too worried that you're only going to get more accomplished from here. 5 star thingees.»
«Wow! VERY impressive. This is the best iclone movie I've seen. Great sound and the lighting was fantastic. Strong VO work. My only critique would be that it was hard to hear dulci's character in the pivotal scene towards the end.
Very good work. I look forward to seeing more of this! »
«OK, first off: why did I have to go to CoolClones to watch this in fullscreen? Man, I had to click and type for about 10 seconds (you can see I'm lazy... lol)
Anyway, there was much I liked about this and a few things I didn't.
The visuals were stunning. Breathtaking, even. But some of the animations were not as good as I would have expected.
Others have mentioned the sound effects, so all I'll say is: they could have been more prolific.
My favourite shot was Dulci's character at the window, looking out at the destruction at the end. Very nice.
Story (what there was of it) seems ok. I look forward to seeing how this unfolds.
Overall: very enjoyable. Bring on the next one!»
«Nice stuff, looked really cool. I particularly enjoyed the gunfight scene. The visuals were excellent and the animation was really pretty good most of the time, although in places it did look a bit dodgy if I'm honest. One of the better animated films I've seen using iClone though. The music and sound design was great and I liked the camerawork. Awesome effects and a pretty nice story. I really liked the VO performances too. As a small negative I felt the pacing was just a bit too slow and the film dragged slightly for me in places, but it's not a major problem at all. Overall great work, I'm looking forward to seeing more
***** - 5 stars»
«Amazing job with iclone nice camera work also.
But when i watch it at tmu and at iclone it stop at 4 min into the movie don't no why.
Put i seen it at tmu theater and your cast did a great job and you both did a excellent job making it.
Visuals where the best I've seen so far with iclone.»
«I'll post my take (for what it's worth!)
Visually, an excellent movie; the setpieces, sets and setups were really well done (well, what else would you expect from Gabe and Wolf? ) The story was a little weak (at this point), but there is more to come and hopefully our questions will be answered as time goes by.
Yes, there are some flaws in this (a few missed "slides", for example; audio synch being off and the volume levels being out of whack), but if you consider it was ALL done in iClone, I'd say that was pretty impressive, overall!
Remember; iClone ISN'T a fully featured movie making suite; it has a lot, but it has a way to go in certain areas, and it simply can't produce something shining and flawless out of the box. The same goes for ANY movie making software out there.
As an experiment, it deserves to be hailed; as a movie, it's not flawless (but then what production ever is?) but it IS enjoyable, and for that alone it deserves kudos, even if folk have issues with the "stiff animations", etc.
I for one am looking forward to seeing how this grows and develops... not only from a viewer perspective, but also 'cos I wanna see what Gabriel's "thang" is »
«to add here -the project had a few goals - one goal for me was in how to best create a process that melds animators of different styles and approaches - i thought it worked very well albeit with multiple project files flying across the internet - one of the goals was to achieve the same visual element from the lighting to the action staging and it worked beautifully under wolf's hands. one of the key learnings was to maximize the efficiency of a project - i.e. with one project file and multiple camera angles, can you squeeze more than just that one shot so maximize the amount of footage you can use for parts of the film.
Now my iclone plug -
iclone 4 really brings a whole new level of visual quality to machinima - comments (in general not this film) about stiff animation is really not in the engine itself but on the animator - you can see the same on films crafted with movies, moviestorm - sometimes unnatural movements, sometimes that 'mongoloid' motion - but the difference is in iclone if you spend the time and edit frame by frame, or use motion capture files you can make that really smooth animation - the trade off being time to market with the film and a lot of us, myself especially does somewhat of a disservice to iClone by not spending as much time on this - in my case i am having so much fun in creating that visual pop to the detriment of the other aspect»
«Thanks for all the comments folks. Many of your points are well made and well taken.
It's always useful to have constructive dialogue.
One of the original main goals of Strife was to complete the entire project strictly from within iclone and that included audio. The only post on the film was splicing the scenes themselves together. With some of the large project files, it was difficult to match up the audio as a result, so your points are well taken. We did run into some audio issues when combining the multiple sources. Also a couple of "foot slide" scenes that snuck into the animation and weren't caught in the initial render.
It was also a great learning experience overall for some of the challenges and opportunities that are available with a collaboration and provided some insight as to task management and what parts of the process should go together etc... So all in all was a great experience. We'll discuss some of those items on the show as well
For Norrie - Ricky only voice acted in the film and knowing he is such a quality sound engineer, I don't want to tarnish his rep as he had no part in the sound engineering itself, just his own dialogue . And I'll look into Vimeo for sure
Not sure why the feed is so slow. A 640x480 version of the film is posted on Youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uytwro9Uk that plays normally(I'll be updating that one to a 1280 version as well) and there is a 1280x720 version on cloneclips here: http://www.cloneclips.com/video/628/Strife-Ep-1
Cheers. I look forward to your continued feedback as it helps improvements to be made
«A very well executed prologue to what I'm sure will become a super well made series.
There were some minor audio glitches that distracted me,voices could have been balanced better, but overall I felt that this was an up and coming series that now has my attention.
Top marks for visual content.
nicely done, team.»
«Just watched the download, and for a 120 Mb flv it did look nice.
My usual iClone complaints withstanding, it looked nice.
The rest was a bit meh. Bad dialogue, with some appalling exposition.
Ricky Grove was involved in this? Not in the sound I hope.
Sorry for being so negative, but not sure what else I can be.
«I must say I was really looking forward to this for most of 2009 and finally when I saw this was out I couldn't wait to watch it.
I do feel that there were some audio problems, some of the dialogue was soft and hard to hear and the fight scene seemed out of sync. Maybe it was the style, but I'm sure it was different when Gabe released the same scene.
Overall it was good, but I did expect great, maybe I expected too much from such an amazingly talented group.
One last thing, what happened to the old woman from the trailer?»
«I'll take the blame for the embedding choice - the first upload wasn't as crisp as it showed up on another site & I suggested he embed it instead. There is a fullscreen button on the original site but I didn't realize it doesn't do anything here when you click on it. The movie is viewable fullscreen on CloneClips: http://www.cloneclips.com/video/628/Strife-Ep-1 The farthest button icon gives the option to switch to fullscreen.»
«It was tough to tell..... I seem to have a problem with iCLone videos. They load/buffer really slow. Watching this was almost like watching Anime. I was getting about 1 out of every 6 or 7 frames....
The audio was also way ahead of the video...almost 15 seconds ahead. Made it very hard to tell if dialogue matched action.
From this small sample, it seemed as though the story held together. What is obvious is that this movie has a lot of back story I do not yet know and it still has much story to tell. I will reserve any further comments until I see/hear more.
The Costumes and Sets looked really good. You could almost see the stitching on the antagonists clothing.
The quality of the audio was first rate. Very clear. Very well balanced.
Your cast was also a very big plus. The dialogue was clear, well paced and very natural.
My only comment is for the character Jess, I understand she is a soldier and not given to panic, but when confronted with some of the revelations she was handed,(the antagonist not acting as expected and the news that the virus was created by her faction) I would have expected a slightly larger hint of fear/panic/uncertainty/anger in her voice.
Any other comments I might make would only reiterate what Dulci has already stated.»
«I felt I had to watch this, having read the deranged wall of text beneath this one.
But I have to ask, where did you upload this (then embed)?
I can't watch it full screen with Firefox? Sorry, but I have no interest in watching it in such a small window.
Excuse my geeky comment, but this is surely hurting your views.»
«I'll be totally honest with you Wolf, and I don't usually dislike films, but I really can't say that I enjoyed this one. After watching it another 1 and a 1/2 time more through, I can't say that the story was cohesive, or even understandable. From the action, I could tell they were fighting, but the animations were very stick-figury, and it really annoyed me, though that's a quip that comes with iC. The voice acting was decently done, but when placed over the on-screen action, it didn't feel real looking, though the voices themselves would have seemed to fared better in a radio broadcast with a narrator. Nonetheless, I think it is at least a decent start, but especially from my own personal experience, I know when a plot isn't really appealing though many other things (save also the animations) try to tip the scales of perception. I give this a 3/5. Nothing really your fault. I just thought that the writing could've sounded more real, and that the animations for the voiceovers could have been more cohesive. Not that they were mis-synched, but that the characters didn't look like what they would sound by such voices. Good luck in the future. If you have any concerns as to why I feel this way, then please ask. But, I just had to be honest.»
«I really enjoyed seeing this at the premier at TMU Theater last night.
Ricky Grove delivers a powerful performance, and the casting of him was dead-on. There are so many details going on in this that I needed several viewings to catch more of them. Just a few that really stood out to me - the lighting used when the alarm sounds off, the shooting down of the vehicle including the gunshots in the windshield and the blood effects in the interior, the facial animations on both the speaking and non-speaking characters, and the crossing of the high bridge. Trying not to give away any spoilers here, so I can't really mention any more! The background characters didn't just stand around like statues but were active. The sound effects were well-placed and the music didn't detract from the film.
And naturally, I enjoyed how lovely you made the character I portrayed!»
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