«i wasnt blaming anyone and i actually wrote this whole movie myself while im at school»

«i dont ignore»

«i read all comments on my videos»

«I agree with Chris. While it may be true SF isn't taking advice (I dunno, I've been gone for a while) there's really no reason to put him down in the way that you guys did. It's not really about what you said, just how you said it.. This site is supposed to be about the filmic collective lol, if we spend our time sniping at each other we just become another machinima.com or YouTube. And if it's true you've tried to help him before and he won't listen, why not just ignore him?

Ok I'm done.. SF, if you're serious about putting the effort in for VOs shoot me a PM.. if you want that is »

«@BakedFrog
*just nods*
@Chrisproductions
Nobody here is mean, but we ALL work for our dream!
10€ for a micro and asking around friends and girlfriend is really not much investment for a dream.
Why SpidermanForever doesn´t invest only this less money and effort in his dream..???
Only to come out and cry for help or that OTHERS work for HIS dreams:
Sorry, NO WAY!
Additional: If the movie is bad - not even the best voice action is able to help!
And YOU: Come out and help him, if you want to "donate a fish instead of teaching one to lern how to fish", if you want.
But don´t blame US that we don´t work for bad movie makers and make their movies!»

«Chrisproductions, I don't believe anyone here was being "mean" in their comment. Everything said was true, whether it was harsh or not. Spidermanforever just keeps on asking for voices without trying to improve using at least SOME of the advice that's been given. If you think that these comments are so bad and unhelpful, and think that people should be helping out, how come I don't see you offering to do voices for him?

Just saying, I think it is evident that these movies are not worthy of voice actors, unless it just for fun with a group of friends, which has been mentioned multiple times. I really don't see these comments as that bad, they really would come to help Spidermanforever if he just took the time to take in what everyone has said, rather than just brush it off and keep doing things in his films that most likely won't make for a good movie.

The main thing is dialogue. There is NO VOICE ACTOR WHO WOULD SAY THE LINES IN "STRUGGLE FOR THE EARTH", so the writing needs MAJOR improvement. Spidermanforever mentioned he's now trying out custom camera angles - -that's great, this will only make you better. The next thing you need is to experiment with more music, and get to know each character a little more rather than just throwing people on a set, giving them names and calling it a movie. For me to be interested, there has to be some way of introducing every character (Of course in a Batman movie this isn't TOO important).

But overall, I know it's been said (by myself, and others), I just haven't seen anything from you that makes me think it would be any better with voice actors. Maybe you'll end up proving all of us wrong, which I hope you do, but until that happens, I'm going to stick by my comments and pretty much everyone elses. Just know this, I really don't believe that anyone is trying to be rude and unhelpful, if that was the case every comment would just say "you suck" "bad movie", just all kinds of useless junk. But if you actually look, there is some good, solid advice in here that could help you take your movie-making to the next level. »

«we use to be community that help each other wow even when your a good movie maker it's getting harder and harder to get people at tmu to voice act for your movies I've seen comments in this that was just mean i want to say this everyone starts some where i think biz comments where helpful.
looks at it 12 comments to tell some one how bad they are and they need to get better i would love to see people say will help with your scripts and voice act.
I've watched pages of no comment movies or one or two is this what tmu has become.
this is only my oppion»

«You don´t make work to make at least a teaser for your next project - so we will save pains to voice act for you.
FIRST come out with any good footage - THEN ask for help for voice acting.
Exactly in this order.
Or grab a micro for 10$ and ask your girlfriend and other friends. That might be much easier.»

«Scratch that earlier comment. Batman rocks. If you wanna make a Batman movie, you make a Batman movie. That first Batman film you made was pretty fun to watch, and you had some great ideas there so you go ahead with this, but don't worry about voice actors just now. Good luck!»

«I will be extremely honest. You are not good enough to demand voices. Your videos, as of now, are very mediocre and primitive, and your directing skills need a lot of work. That goes beyond "camera angles", mate. It's to do with continuity, a decent plot and anything remotely appealing to the viewers.

The dialogue in Struggle for Earth was plain awful. You're not much of a writer. Your sentence structure and characterization really suck. Don't be offended, I'm just voicing my own opinion. Do you not take ANYbody's advice into account? With lines like those, do you think any self-respecting voice actor would inflict that on themselves?

Also, it's extremely sad that you're producing a Batman film when there's a hundred other guys making Batman films on this website, and I detect that your story will make no effort to distinguish from them, and will miss the mark. I predict a certain green-haired menace will be at large?

You really need to take things slow, because you are not a great movie maker. Voice actors are appropriate when directors are at a certain level of professionalism and their work becomes more cinematic. I hardly think "cinematic" describes something like Struggle for Earth.»

«I feel just like pretty much everyone else who has commented on your films. They are nowhere near ready to have voiceover work included in them. The dialogue you've put in the two films I have seen from you was incredibly cheesy, and like sonsofawitch said, I could not imagine anyone saying any one of those lines.

You seem to be hung up on the idea of having voiceovers, rather than just making a movie. You won't need voiceovers for a batman film, we all pretty much get the idea, and it's a simple enough story that will most likely be a bunch of action scenes, it really doesn't REQUIRE voiceovers. I just think you need to understand the game a bit more and get a feel for making movies, and then people will become interested in doing voices for you.

As of right now though, it seems as if you're just brushing everyone's opinion to the side and asking for actors anyway...that is totally fine if you believe you NEED voices, but if that's the case, just record your own voice, and maybe some of your friends. I highly doubt you will get much of a response from other actors yet.»

«http://voiceacting.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=machinima- sign up here
but id write a script and read the how to post auditions thread»

«I apologise you'd think having read the Mr Freeze GN I'd know that his wife is called Nora Fries, I thought her name was Freeze»

«this has nothing to do with christopher nolan im going for more comic book plots this has nothing to do with any of the batman movies at all
»

«this has nothing to do with christopher nolan i used my own camera angles in this movie i»

«nora fries is mr freeze's beloved wife who he's desperate to cure»

«A good place to find voice actors in the beginning is family and friends. A smart phone voice recorder will do the trick (and is mobile - big plus) if you use a quiet environment and audacity to clean up the noise. Good luck.»

«Nora Fries? Is that Nora Freeze or a new McDonalds side?»

«Another Batman film? ANOTHER BATMAN FILM? I'm starting to hate Christopher Nolan for making those movies. Now the Dark Knight has been milked so much that I'm almost despising the whole concept. That's why I've pledged never to make any Batman-related films, unless they were satirical.

I need to go on to the subject of 'voice actors'. The dialogue in your Battle for Earth movie (or whatever you eventually decided to call it) was laughably awful. I can't imagine any respectable voice actor speaking lines like that out loud. I can't imagine there was any kind of script, and was completely improvised.

Plus, it's no secret that your last movie was way below standard. I doubt anyone would want to be any part of it, to be honest. I'm not trying to be cruel, I'm being honest. So just continue doing movies for now without them, work on your story lines and dialogue, try to give us something new, because your previous efforts were uninteresting and very bad. You've already been told that its to early to ask for voice actors, not out of spite, but out of observation.

Good luck.»

«My first film to feature "hired" voice actors was made in 2010. I've been a part of this community since 2007. You can see the time it took to develop enough confidence to hire a cast to one of my films. Judging from your past efforts, you need to make some more films, develop your own style and then see what you can do with a cast. You're just not ready yet.

Plus, this doesn't seem like an idea many people will be willing to participate in. It looks like just another Batman film. There is no film synopsis or character bio. You need to generate interest in your project: trailers, teasers, clips, descriptions, etc. So I'm telling you to hold off on the casting calls and make some silent/subtitled features. See what people think of them and if people say you should work with a cast then do so! For now, I'm not rating this because it's nothing more than a few words on a black screen. I'm just giving you advice. Hope you absorb it Mr. SpidermanForever.»